Tuesday, August 09, 2005

The Wine and The Bread

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Had a conversation with a guy recently about the elements of the Lord's Supper. In their small village (and for whatever reason throughout most of the churches in the area, not just Churches of Christ), the Christians use these little packaged crackers, about the size of a dime (like oyster cracker). They are not flat wafers, but like salted cookies. This is their "bread". And for the "wine", well most use the real thing. However, there are some who are bothered by that and prefer a box of sweetened juice, non-alcoholic. He was asking me to tell him what I thought about their choice of elements.

First, I wanted to impart a sense of liberty to him...trying to invoke a sense of our freedom in Christ and God's big grace for such petty decisions. That approach doesn't work too well here; they are not people who have a history with legalism (too new), and rather are accustomed to people dictating to them how to do things (too long under oppression or foreign rule; plus they have a low esteem about their own people group and don't trust themselves to make the right decisions). Anyway, my vague response didn't please him. So what do I tell him? Again, he's not looking for me to throw him a litany of choices (that's an American mindset), but rather he's wanting me to tell him how to do it.

In our tradition, unleavened bread is the way we've always done it. Why? Because Jesus took the unleavened bread at the table with the disciples when he transformed the Last Supper into the Supper of Christ. But does our new covenant feast have anything to do with the significance of the lack of yeast? No. So why should we be bound to that. To say, "Jesus took it" is not enough. To comment on the metaphor of yeast as sin seems like a wrong fit. Other denominations use a loaf of bread. Should I tell him to stick with the leavened cookies, or do I tell him that he must find a substitute (or give him a recipe for homemade unleavened bread). Is it wrong to tell him a loaf (baguette) of French bread would work just fine? Is it wrong, by giving him the recipe for unleavened bread, to push him to a corner and say "that's the only way to do it!"

For the wine, I prefer the good stuff (I mean a good Merlot might go down real nice, huh?!) They say it spoils too fast. They prefer the sweetened juice, but it costs too much (for a reference, it takes about 3-4 weeks of offerings to purchase that juice...can you imagine us in the States spending the equivalent of a month's contributions on the crackers and grape juice?!) This pastor friend would like to know if they can use something else? Again, we go back to Jesus' example at the Last Supper. "You will not take this fruit of the vine again...." So, we can say, that's the key phrase. As long as it's a fruit of some vine. Oh really? What if there are no vines here in Benin (they were in abundance in Jesus' landscape). Are we bound to that phrase or is there another substitute. What about orange or mango juice? Not really a vine, but whenever local pastors teach from John 15 (I am the vine....), they speak of orange trees. Or is it better to use something that LOOKS like blood (is that the reason Jesus chose the cup from the table?) So no orange juice.....what about Coke? Kinda. Or they do still a Kool-Aid like cherry water. That's red (not blood red, but a shade of red).

One problem with either the wine or the sweetened juice here is that if there's not money in the budget, they'll forego Communion until they do...sometimes that might take a couple of months if a medical need of a church member comes up and dwindles the cash box to nothing. Should I tell them they are sinning by doing that?

What about WHO can take it? We've always stress "baptized believers". When Paul is condemning the Corinthians (1 Ch 11) for perverting the purpose of communion, it appears there is a real MEAL situation ("one remains hungry, another gets drunk"...can't hardly say that if you are talking about a tiny morsel of a saltine and a thimble of Welch’s….PLUS, going back to the “WWJD” argument, didn’t he share a full meal…that was what the Passover was…a family celebration). So, shouldn’t we invite our children to partake as well…just because they are not baptized believers, do we not still claim to raise them under the joy of the new covenant? Can’t they celebrate that with us? Or do we still maintain the litmus test of baptism and thus pass the plate AROUND those on the pew who haven’t been baptized?

I remember when a non-believing friend came to church with us one time in Littlefield…when Communion was passed, we didn’t think of telling him he wasn’t “allowed” to partake…so we were shocked to see him take the ENTIRE 4x6 wafer in his hand and say “thanks!” Hysterical.

I could go on and on....curious about your thoughts. What would you tell my Aja friend?

-RR

6 comments:

Donny - MarketingTwin #2 said...

I think he's got bigger fish to fry before worrying about these elements:

1) if his church doesn't start with a lower case "C", what does it matter anyway? There's no reason to worry if you are going to burn in hell as it is?

2) The fact that there were at least 3 or 4 songs in the village church service I attended last fall before the 2nd prayer leads me to believe hell is right around the corner for these people.

3) And why is there no picture of an envelope full of money in that clip art picture. The contribution is just a big a part of the communion service as those other elements. Is it getting hot yet?

4) Given the fact that the people I saw at the Kaitime service last September weren't in a suit and tie led me to believe that because they aren't giving their best to God (first fruits, duh?) then hell has a seat in the first row reserved for all of 'em anyway.

5) One word: DRUMS!! Need I say more? Burn baby burn!!!

Brother, you missionaries make this stuff out to be harder than it is. Next time you see your "church" friend (and I use that term loosely and without any guarantees for him until he goes all the way under if you know what I mean and I think you do!), you just refer him to the following website. This fallacy of a website will show him how WRONG he is in thinking that he even has a chance:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096787/

Randy, let me know when you have bigger problems to deal with. This stuff is way too easy.

Long live Eph 5:19 (KJV) !!!

Kelly Vaughn said...

Great response...such the theologian!

Actually I've been disappointed by how few responses....maybe people thought I truly wanted a sound theological debate with a bazillion Scripture references to back up their points...NO, I was just looking for dialogue/ideas (maybe even WITHOUT all the references...just talk)

Thanks for taking a stab at it...may you burn in hell with all your thoughts! :)

Bye, Brother Ned, and Good Night,
RV

Anonymous said...

I couldn't commence to comment on this subject but as for Donny's words ...I hope that was some kind of "twin talk" that only you would understand! Ha!

I don't remember the cracker snatcher.

Mom

Kelly Vaughn said...

Anne,
Great to hear from you! Yikes about the "crucified" comment...don't plan on writing a book then. I appreciate your every thought...that's the kinda of things I was wondering about...sometimes we get here and we can't see the bigger picture because of all the nuances. I like blogs because you can hear people's thoughts on a subject. I appreciate you taking the time to write yours....greet Dan for me...hope the NetCasters group is fruitful, as well as your own counseling ministry.

John Mark Hicks said...

Bigger fish to fry? No doubt. But we do have to start where people are, deal with people where they are. So, I think it is appropriate to provide some resources for people to think through some particulars in a way that might give them larger insight into the way of God with his people.

For example, dialoging about bread gives an opportunity to think in broader terms about the Lord's Supper and place it more in a meal context. The meal context puts into the redemptive-historical context of "table" in the way of God with his people. As we see table in the OT with the sacrificial meals (thanksgiving sacrifices, for example), we see it is not limited to unleavened bread (indeed, that is the abnormal bread). When we think "table" first, the elements then reflect the table. The broader perspective shapes the elements and their use.

Wine, for example, is not even mentioned in the OT regarding the Passover. Wine was not the normal table drink; it was used for festive times and meals. Again, if "table" is thought first, then drink becomes drink rather than the absolute specificity of "wine" or "fruit of the vine."

So, I would use such discussions as an entree into a larger vision of table rather than dismissing them as unimportant or trying to out-patternize the patternists.

My two cents. :-)

John Mark

Anthony Parker said...

I'm in Accra with broadband, so I finally get a chance to look at your blog. Good stuff.
My feeling is that people are going to use what they are going to use -- all the other churches use crackers and some kind of juice (some here dissolve candy in water), so yours probably aren't going to feel that they are doing it "right" if they do it another way. We probably just need to focus on teaching the meaning and let them worry about the forms. Either they will finally adopt more appropriate forms on their own, or they will fill their old forms with new meaning.

So there's my 100 cedis worth.